New Kamiya Book

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I have my doubts. Why vent the secrets of one of the most (if no the most) emblematic complex origami model :?:
It is not really that hard once you know what you are doing. And now that the CP is officially released with M/V lines I don't see the what the diagrams benefit would be.
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He has already, as you said, released the cp and given some tips for it (unfortunately in Japanese) in world of super complex origami, so I don't think he's trying to make it a trade secret, the issue was the work involved to make the diagram. The benefit of releasing the diagram would be to let people who can't do cps very well (myself included) make ryuzin, an amazing piece of art!
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Yes but revealing the secrets of ryujin is not good...at least in my opinion...Only people will so much patience can fold the model(shaped scales) so even if there is the diagram it wont really help you shape the scales XD so im wondering how many people will fold it from them...I would buy book just to see how he did some parts..To be honest im actually so angry on kamiya he shouldnt do this...I guess the people who folded it know what im talking about...So basically if he relises the diagram it wont be challenge anymore and that sucks :D
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For people like me, the diagrams would be challenge enough :). If you really want a challenge, you can always fold it not using the diagrams, or fold something else that's also hard. Examples like the lich king, zoanoid dragon, scaled wyvern, kraken attack, and the shadow ninja come to mind as something to fold from cp. I can understand that anyone who's already folded ryuzin loses a little (just a little) bit of the "wow" factor as more people fold it, but anyone who can fold it from cp, their rz will probably look better anyway!
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Diagrams do not automatically make a model easy. It will be as or harder than the crease pattern.
I don't really think releasing diagrams would impact much on the model - honestly, the CP is not that hard. Just simple boxpleating with some grafts and other things. And as said before, he even provided it with m/v lines.

Once again - it will probably be at least 4 years before this is released as It is #14, and the most recent book released was #11. Also factor in OH time, and we have a release date of around 2020.
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phillipcurl wrote:honestly, the CP is not that hard. Just simple boxpleating with some grafts and other things. And as said before, he even provided it with m/v lines.
:lol: Have pity on us newer and probably much less talented souls. They might as well be quantum mechanics mathematics for me.
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Thats true but that but people arozunf world fold ryujin for challenge... Now people who fld from diagrams will learn it "easy" way and those people have no ida what the people who folded it even without cp or with cp were been trough...For example me spent nights-days-hours figuring parts XD
I have nothing aginst diagrams but you will gain much more experience folding it from cp ;)
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I'm tempted to release some of my own diagrams just because.
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kareshi wrote:
I'm tempted to release some of my own diagrams just because.
Diagrams of your own models? you don't happen to have diagrams of your spiny dragon? :wink:
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april folls is april 1st...
and this photo was found several days before then. the last kamiya book was also an "april fools" joke.
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phillipcurl wrote:the last kamiya book was also an "april fools" joke.
Yeah, but it ended up being a real book.
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Fluffy wrote:
phillipcurl wrote:the last kamiya book was also an "april fools" joke.
Yeah, but it ended up being a real book.
That's his point :lol:
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Ramiel wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
phillipcurl wrote:the last kamiya book was also an "april fools" joke.
Yeah, but it ended up being a real book.
That's his point :lol:
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Kyle2952 wrote:
kareshi wrote:
I'm tempted to release some of my own diagrams just because.
Diagrams of your own models? you don't happen to have diagrams of your spiny dragon? :wink:
I'm working on that...
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oh sweet. i'm pretty sure those are illegal without satoshi's permission though?
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