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[Fanatic]

One word of warning: geometric models almost NEVER look good with any kind of foil. It is very, very easy to accidentally wrinkle or squish it, and that completely ruins the whole model. Geometric models should be clean and precise, just like geometry itself. Instead of refolding it with tissue-foil, you should refold it with tant, again, because the planes of the pyramid are curving; this is a sign of sloppy folding. You should refold it with the purpose of not tolerating any sloppiness. If you need to, spend an hour per fold trying ti make them as perfect as possible; making sure they're not curved, making sure they run through each point, making sure they hit the correct points.

Also, many problems can come from non-square paper. If the paper is not exactly square, it can force you to make inaccurate creases and ruin the whole model. If you are making tissue-foil, or are cutting some other paper (baking paper, tracing paper, kraft paper, wrapping paper), spend as much time as possible to make the paper perfectly square or triangular or whatever. I once spent an hour cutting some baking paper... it was not fun, but it was worth it.

Another note: what you usually fold and post seem like very rough drafts, but you never make what I would consider a final draft. Don't just fold a few sloppy renditions of a model, but learn from each draft and make a better one next time. When I design something, in each draft (I make many drafts...), I try to do something different. The shaping of the legs, the shaping of the head, the way you form the toes, etc. If you try many different ways of doing things, you can choose the best way and make a better model. For example, on you tanuki model: the back legs don't have feet, but the front legs do. Give the back legs all sorts of different feet to find the best-looking ones. When you are making drafts, use some cheap, disposable paper like copy paper or cheap kami, so you don't feel guilty about ruining good paper (even though it seem you don't care).

[joshuaorigami]

ill try it with tissue foil and tant and see which one comes out better
the paper was an exact square and all of the creases i made were perfect. - it was just that at the end it didn't hold very well.

[Pixion]

What is a Pikachu?

It looks like a canary that fell dead out of his cage....

Consider to honor the designer of a model by posting 'clean and inspirational' renditions.

[origami_8]

Pikachu is a Pokémon, for further information look here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pikachu
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokemon

[joshuaorigami]

giraffe by me. i will diagram this model for my upcoming book. i will refold this model over and over until i get the perfect giraffe, and then i will diagram the best version. but im happy with the outcome so far


dune buggy by marc kirschenbaum.



refold of marc kirschenbaum's pyramid. it turned out much better with tissue foil.

[Fanatic]

Giraffe: looks okay, but there are still some inaccuracies. (back, legs)

Dune Buggy: The front wheels are supposed to be square? Other than that, a much higher quality of work than the rest of your foldings.

Pyramid: No. It does not look better than the version folded from tant paper. It is wrinked, the fold on the left is not straight, and the bottom is not together.


You are getting better, but you still have a long way to go.

[Sunburst]

Joshua, you make your own tissue foil, correct? Then you really need to make better foil than that. Seriously, when the sheets of your tissue foil starts to separate THAT much, you're doing something wrong. What do you use to glue your sheets together? White glue? I can tell just by looking at your starting sheets (and your recent pyramid.) You definitely need to start using glue in spray cans. That way your tissue sheets will be glued more uniformly to the foil and you won't get any wavy patterns from your white glue usage.
Also, if you plan on folding with tissue foil often, practice folding more cleanly with it so you don't result with some sloppy looking model. Use your nails or something to remove every wrinkles out of EVERY fold you make and also flatten your models after each step. And as all the other members have already told you, fold more accurately (by aligning every fold you make, having references for every fold, etc.)
That said I hope you'll get better soon with all the advice given by the members on this forum

On a side note, I want to fold Keiichi's pikachu too!

[joshuaorigami]

fanatic: The dune buggy's front wheels are meant to be square.
sunburst: Yes, i do make my own tissue foil and i will try to get some spray glue as soon as possible and try to fold more neatly

[Ben385]

@Sunburst, I don't think that t-foil made with white glue is so bad. I know that both myself and origami_8 use it, and we both agree it's pretty good

[Sunburst]

Hmm, I didn't know about that, Ben385, since I never used white glue on tissue foil. Well then let me rephrase what I said about that :
Joshua, you can use whatever you want to glue your sheets together as long as the glue is uniformly applied on your foil (so I guess spray can glue or white glue applied with a brush would be equally good).

[bethnor]

one thing to do is go to sarah's (happyfolding) videos. i believe she has an instructional on how to use white glue to apply tissue foil. it involves diluting it in water and then using a paint roller to apply it uniformly to the foil.

and no insult to joshua, but i am concerned that he is not cognizant enough to use the spray adhesive in a way that is safe for him and his family--he makes an awful lot of tissue foil.

also, joshua, try going to sunburst's gallery to see proper use of tissue foil. OTOH, it's also a sterling example of the medium's weakness. even though sunburst folds flawlessly, the slightly translucent nature of tissue paper gives many of the final products a wrinkled appearance in photo.

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Tissue foil makes me cringe, now...I used to love that stuff so much...

[GJ0KYZ]

Tissue foil is ok if you make it properly. The diluted PVC glue / roller approach is good but the best paper is made by using glue sticks (e.g., Pritt Stick). I've used spray glue in the past - it makes the paper too thick and is very expensive. Regardless of what glue you use, the important point is to make sure every single crease is removed from the paper by rubbing with a cloth whilst still wet and then leaving the paper to dry naturally out of the sun. Removing creases is time consuming and difficult when using very thin foil (recommended) but is essential in order that the paper avoids the typical crumpled appearance associated with tissue foil origami.

Nearly all my models are made from tissue foil. Have a look at my Flick page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gj0kyz

[origami_8]

I second what Ben said. Frankly I think that tissue foil made with white glue is far better than tissue foil made with spray glue and believe me, I tried both. If the paper gets wet and bubbly you may just have used too much glue. The glue is supposed to be only a very thin coat, hardly visible. Most white glues need to be diluted with water at least 1+1. Furthermore you have to make sure that you choose a glue that sticks to aluminium (should be stated on the container). I've tried several brands before finding my favourite glue. At the moment I use "Metylan Ovalit T" for tissue foil and "Metylan normal" as MC. A small painter's roll works the best for me to spread the glue evenly. For each sheet of tissue foil I use less than a hazelnut sized amount of glue.

Here are videos by Sara Adams making Tissue Foil:
http://www.happyfolding.com/instructions-tissue_foil
and Double MC paper:
http://www.happyfolding.com/instructions-double_tissue

And finally a picture of some tissue foil I made some time ago with above mentioned white glue:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/origami_8/4148160700/

[anonymous person]

@joshua about the pyramid- this time try it again but with heavyweight cardstock-I'm sure it will turn out a lot better than the tant or tissue foil.