KNL Dragon - paper to model size ratio.

General discussion about Origami, Papers, Diagramming, ...
User avatar
Sadarac
Super Member
Posts: 212
Joined: September 26th, 2008, 7:07 am

KNL Dragon - paper to model size ratio.

Post by Sadarac »

could somebody tell me what the paper size to model size ratio is for the KNL dragon?
Origami forums design group viewtopic.php?p=49612#49612
"When you put a crease in a piece of paper, You're essentially changeing the memory of that piece." - Erik Demaine (from "Between the Folds")
User avatar
Zoraz
Senior Member
Posts: 427
Joined: October 4th, 2008, 2:47 am
Location: Virginia
Contact:

Post by Zoraz »

I'm not sure, but i think the finished model is roughly 1/8 the size of the starting paper. I used a piece of 9 3/4 in. kami and had no problems.
User avatar
Sadarac
Super Member
Posts: 212
Joined: September 26th, 2008, 7:07 am

Post by Sadarac »

well i might need something larger. 6in is WAYYYYYY to small for it :(
Origami forums design group viewtopic.php?p=49612#49612
"When you put a crease in a piece of paper, You're essentially changeing the memory of that piece." - Erik Demaine (from "Between the Folds")
User avatar
origami-artist-galen
Senior Member
Posts: 277
Joined: November 14th, 2008, 6:27 am
Location: Kalispell, MT
Contact:

Post by origami-artist-galen »

I only folded the model once and I used 6," I can't remember exactly how large the finished product was, but I estimate 2.5" from head to tail.
User avatar
origami-artist-galen
Senior Member
Posts: 277
Joined: November 14th, 2008, 6:27 am
Location: Kalispell, MT
Contact:

Post by origami-artist-galen »

Hey, I just folded a new one. It's just under 3 1/2 inches long from head to tail, so the ratio is something like .57.
User avatar
OrigamiGianluca
Senior Member
Posts: 297
Joined: September 13th, 2008, 10:29 am
Location: North of Italy
Contact:

Re: KNL Drafon - paper to model size ratio.

Post by OrigamiGianluca »

Sadarac wrote:could somebody tell me what the paper size to model size ratio is for the KNL dragon?
It is a strange question, since I can see from your signature that you have Lang's ODS.
So why don't you simply fold it? Image It is not so long and difficult... Image
www.origamigianluca.com --> Fold with me...

Looking for some diagramming tips? Click HERE!
User avatar
Sadarac
Super Member
Posts: 212
Joined: September 26th, 2008, 7:07 am

Post by Sadarac »

yeah but i didnt see a size ratio anywhere in the book. and its not long or hard but im not good enough to do it with small paper:( (remember that ive only been serious about origami for a few months)
Origami forums design group viewtopic.php?p=49612#49612
"When you put a crease in a piece of paper, You're essentially changeing the memory of that piece." - Erik Demaine (from "Between the Folds")
User avatar
OrigamiGianluca
Senior Member
Posts: 297
Joined: September 13th, 2008, 10:29 am
Location: North of Italy
Contact:

Post by OrigamiGianluca »

If you never try you never get.

And remember that mistakes are important as well succes for improving. :wink:
www.origamigianluca.com --> Fold with me...

Looking for some diagramming tips? Click HERE!
User avatar
angrydemon
Forum Sensei
Posts: 556
Joined: March 21st, 2008, 5:12 pm
Location: bottomless pits of hell
Contact:

Post by angrydemon »

6 inches is the largest size of paper you can possibly find??? You know that "origami paper" isn't the only paper in the world that can be used to fold origami right?
I've fallen down, and I can't get up.
My Flickr
User avatar
Sadarac
Super Member
Posts: 212
Joined: September 26th, 2008, 7:07 am

Post by Sadarac »

yeah. but i stink at cutting square paper. its hard for me :( even with my exacto knife.
Origami forums design group viewtopic.php?p=49612#49612
"When you put a crease in a piece of paper, You're essentially changeing the memory of that piece." - Erik Demaine (from "Between the Folds")
User avatar
unknownfolder
Super Member
Posts: 174
Joined: May 23rd, 2008, 3:12 pm
Location: United States

Post by unknownfolder »

What exactly is your technique for cutting to square because I have no problems cutting copy pare to square using safety scissors.
Whenever I do complex Origami I get this sinking feeling.
User avatar
Zoraz
Senior Member
Posts: 427
Joined: October 4th, 2008, 2:47 am
Location: Virginia
Contact:

Post by Zoraz »

Sadarac wrote:yeah. but i stink at cutting square paper. its hard for me :( even with my exacto knife.
i find scissors or knives to be very innacurate when cutting paper to square. I fold back and forth along the crease multiple times, then lick both sides of the crease. This makes it really easy to tear. it leaves a 'fuzzy' edge, but that usually isnt a problem in models that can be made with copy paper.
User avatar
Sadarac
Super Member
Posts: 212
Joined: September 26th, 2008, 7:07 am

Post by Sadarac »

maybe its just the paper. its a foil wrapping paper. or my blade might not be sharp enough :(
Origami forums design group viewtopic.php?p=49612#49612
"When you put a crease in a piece of paper, You're essentially changeing the memory of that piece." - Erik Demaine (from "Between the Folds")
User avatar
origamimasterjared
Buddha
Posts: 1670
Joined: August 13th, 2004, 6:25 pm
Contact:

Post by origamimasterjared »

Zoraz wrote:i find scissors or knives to be very innacurate when cutting paper to square. I fold back and forth along the crease multiple times, then lick both sides of the crease. This makes it really easy to tear. it leaves a 'fuzzy' edge, but that usually isnt a problem in models that can be made with copy paper.
That may be the worst possible way to "cut" paper. If you're going to do fold-and-cut, the best way is to make the crease, then sharpen it, with a spoon or finger nail. Then just tear along it by putting the paper flat on a table in front of you, with the peak of the crease up, placing your hands firmly down on either side of the crease, and pulling apart. This works much better than licking, which causes both distortion of the paper, and weakening along a much larger area than necessary, which leads to inaccuracy.

What I do is to fold along the crease, make it sharp, and then take an 8 inch slicer through it. Works pretty well, even for very fibrous light or thick papers like mulberry single sheets or backcoats.
User avatar
Zoraz
Senior Member
Posts: 427
Joined: October 4th, 2008, 2:47 am
Location: Virginia
Contact:

Post by Zoraz »

The only reason i use that method, is because it is quick, relatively silent (for folding during a lecture), and when I am folding with copy paper its just an easy fold, practice, or a doodle. For serious folding(which i havent acutally done, but will soon once i get MC) i would cut it in a more accurate way, like with a knife and a straight edge or something. Sorry if my statement was ambiguous.
Post Reply