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Samurai Helmet Beetle: Starting Size?

Posted: November 4th, 2009, 9:29 pm
by FrumiousBandersnatch
Hey, just a quick question to those who have completed Kamiya's Samurai Helmet Beetle (Tanteidan Convention 14). If I'm using parchment paper, is 60cm a decent starting size, or is this going to yield too large of a finished beetle?

Posted: November 4th, 2009, 9:41 pm
by insaneorigami
I have never tried to fold the model, nor do I have diagrams - However, when you try to fold something with a large sheet of parchment, as you probably know, it becomes hard to shape. I would recommend starting with some smaller size - that seems a bit big.


EDIT: corrected a big grammatical error

Posted: November 4th, 2009, 9:41 pm
by origamimasterjared
I folded it from a scrap of kozo probably around 8 inches. It came out with a body about 2 inches. This is from memory so these are guesses--I don't have it anymore since it got crushed at some point, so I can't measure it. Hope that helps.

Posted: November 4th, 2009, 9:46 pm
by FrumiousBandersnatch
It does! I was just kind of looking for an approximate ratio! 4:1 sounds like a good starting point. Thanks!

Posted: November 4th, 2009, 11:51 pm
by WhisperPuffin
I folded it a while ago, while in my foil phase, out of 15cm american foil. It was foldable, but it didn't look good.

I would recommend something about 25-35 cm, MC'd kozo would work really well.

How thick is parchment paper? That might guide my advice a little bit, although this is one of those models where thickness isn't critical, but shapability is.

Posted: November 5th, 2009, 4:15 am
by bethnor
i folded this model from a 35 cm piece of nicolas terry foil. the final model is exactly 10 cm from the end of the elytra to the tip of the horns.

it's one of my favorite kamiya models, and i hate insect models.

Posted: November 5th, 2009, 4:49 am
by FrumiousBandersnatch
WhisperPuffin wrote:MC'd kozo would work really well.
I've heard that Sipho Mabona does this. Anyone know if it's any particular type or gsm of kozo? My attempts with this (with something called kitakata) were less than amazing...there was a lot of furriness at the end.

Posted: November 5th, 2009, 5:39 am
by origamimasterjared
I thought you already saw my post where I explained exactly which it is, as well as provided a couple links of where to buy it.

I folded it with non MC-d brown kozo. MC would have helped a little. It was too soft for a beetle.

Posted: November 5th, 2009, 7:55 am
by WhisperPuffin
I buy mine from Hiromi paper, I really like that one.

EDIT: Link to Hiromi online shop.

Posted: November 5th, 2009, 8:47 am
by origamimasterjared
Puffin, you do? Isn't that paper amazing!!

Posted: November 5th, 2009, 11:00 pm
by insaneorigami
Haha, I just found out that my aunt lives around 10 minutes from there, so she said she would send me some paper from there sometime ;). Looking foreward to it :D

Small world, eh?

Whisper - Parchment paper is very thin.

Posted: November 6th, 2009, 6:00 am
by legionzilla
You could use the reccomended starting size on Kamiya's book.

Posted: November 6th, 2009, 6:20 am
by WhisperPuffin
origamimasterjared: Yeah, it is :D . You've used it?

legionzilla: It isn't in The Works. It's in T14, as Frumious said in the thread opener.

Posted: November 6th, 2009, 7:35 am
by origamimasterjared
Yep, but only small scraps of about 8-9 inches. I folded my Bear 1 years ago with it. Also, this beetle. I bought a sheet of red (along with a white gampi and a white one-or-the-other. The shop is about a half hour away from my house (when there's no traffic).

Posted: November 6th, 2009, 9:14 pm
by insaneorigami
Whisperpuffin - have you ever folded with the Kozo roll paper?

I'm trying to figure out if I should get it..