Will Ryu Zin 3.5 ever be diagrammed?

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Re: Will Ryu Zin 3.5 ever be diagrammed?

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Froy wrote:If you want to see a Ryujin masterfully folded by you, it must be the result of a really hard work.
i have no interest in ryu-zin diagrams.

that said, if diagrams were to be made, and anyone folded it, it would by definition be only with hard work. as is outlined in another thread, there are already huge logistic problems with making a square large enough, not to mention having a flat surface large enough to work with it on. probably the average person would spend an inordinate (and frankly unhealthy) amount of time on their hands and knees. then there's the precreasing of a 96x96 grid on such a square, with the paper constantly flopping around. on the whole, it would probably be 1-2 weeks before you got on with the process of actually folding the model.
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Re: Will Ryu Zin 3.5 ever be diagrammed?

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The mantis diagrams are not yet available.

bethnor - i agree, if satoshi were to diagram anything, i would honestly not choose any of the ryu-zins...
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Re: Will Ryu Zin 3.5 ever be diagrammed?

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Froy wrote:(Speaking by myself, took me a lot of time to figure out each part and make that thing possible with no official CP available at that time)
Keep in mind your choice in all this. You decided yourself to set up the task of making a 3.5 when there was very little help out there. Nobody needs to struggle exactly as you did, but how does that change the end result? If somebody wants to make a Ryujin, is willing to work hard on the folding process, why should they be forced to break down the CP themselves if another folder is willing to share help? It's the folder's own ethics that decide how much help they want in understanding it, and how that affects their own sense of accomplishment. People have different goals.
"I figured out the crease pattern myself"
"I understand the official crease pattern"
"I understand all the crease pattern but the head"
"I can collapse the base but don't know the exact shaping"
"I can fold it from photo guides or diagrams"
All of these are different achievements. The last one shouldn't be locked away from people just because they haven't got the others. You, Froy, have one of the best-looking 3.5s ever made, but some people might object to your half-CP method. It was your ethical decision. I think half-CP is a great idea, and my next will be done that way. But it's a personal choice and I don't mean to tell people that it's either right or wrong.
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Re: Will Ryu Zin 3.5 ever be diagrammed?

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Hm...I was thinking the last few days...I think a light version of the diagram should be possible, since most of the steps are repetitive.
If I am not mistaken, I read there are partially some diagrams available somewhere, such as head, legs..bod etc etc...so if we put it into one...it should be a light version of the diagram :-P...but then...where to start first :-)

did I get it right..there are 2 ways to have the ryu zin 3.5 completed?
1. version: 1 paper
2. version: consist of several parts..and glue them together?!
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Re: Will Ryu Zin 3.5 ever be diagrammed?

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Not several parts, just 2- an upper & lower half. The crease pattern allows it pretty easily, and the connection between them is covered up by the body scales.
In my own post I said that diagrams for just a foot would be easier to make than diagramming a foot within the actual folding process, but I don't mean that you should make a foot with the intention of gluing it to the rest later.
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