Robert J. Lang - Locust, opus 430

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I commend you for your determination. I tried the model yesterday and I see where you could be confused. Thats sort of an odd pleat sink, similar ones are often used in his book "Origami Insects II". You just have to work from the outside in. You might also encounter problems later with switching around that flap from earlier in the model, the one that comes from the center of the paper. The end result is very nice though, the layer distribution is so excellent that I folded it from 6 inch japanese foil and encountered no rips on my first try (though I had to modify the head a little due to thickness caused by a sink near the end).

"Old Sparky" ( http://dev.origami.com/images_pdf/oldsparky.pdf ) is one "easy" box-pleated model I remember well. Jeremy Shafer also uses box pleating in his works often, like in his book "Origami to Astonish and Amuse". An easy way to practice those pleat sinks is to try them on bases, like dividing a waterbomb base into 16ths by folding the closed point down, or folding a frog base and dividing each flap into 8ths.
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Joe the white wrote:I commend you for your determination. I tried the model yesterday and I see where you could be confused. Thats sort of an odd pleat sink, similar ones are often used in his book "Origami Insects II". You just have to work from the outside in. You might also encounter problems later with switching around that flap from earlier in the model, the one that comes from the center of the paper. The end result is very nice though, the layer distribution is so excellent that I folded it from 6 inch japanese foil and encountered no rips on my first try (though I had to modify the head a little due to thickness caused by a sink near the end).
It seems you're a bit of a psychic when it comes to this model Joe ;-) I picked it up again last night with a new found enthusiasm and had almost no problems what-so-ever with the pleat sinking. It just happened so effortlessly and folding it seemed so trivial. I had to shake my head a bit when I thought about the amount of frustration it had caused me before.

After completing all the pleat sinking I was feeling quite confident about turning out a finished locust. Then I hit step 62 and was once again left scratching my head about what I needed to do to make some more progress on the model. It seemed the no matter what I did I just couldn't get my flaps to line up like the ones in the diagrams. I didn't have a lot of time to work on it so hopefully tonight I can figure out where I'm going wrong. There's either some minor steps not shown or I've made some kind of huge oversight when folding up to this point.
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Karn, you determination is something to be commended. I would have just plain gave up by now, and revisited it months later (like I had to do with the complex kawasaki rose when I was first learning). I can't help you out because i've never folded this model before, but i hope you figure it out. Best of luck,

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First of all, when you look at the model at 61 (after doing 60), you should be able to see that the points are symmetrical. Then look again from the side and open up the first layer. Thats all that I remember, I don't know how right I am
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can anyone help me from step 61 to step 64? I cant seem to get my model to look like step 64 = im stumped...
When I open the top of the model and see that little square flap and fold it over like step 63 says, my model doesnt look like step 64 :(
Has anyone folded this model recently?

Heres some pictures.

Correct Flap distribution?
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Step 62?
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Step 63?
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Step 64... which doesn't look like it should =
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Hello,

did you manage with folding the R.J. Lang's locust after steps 60 ? I'm stuck too... I can't obtain the diagram 62... Please help me if you can.
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Nobody can help me , please ?
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Karn wrote:Only costs a piece of paper :lol:
You won't be :lol: after you accidentally screw up with a piece of Origamido paper.
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Note - I had this discussion with Michael Lafosse about Frog Origamido paper. It is reusable!!! And, even though he promised me some extra sheets...this is not a pre-paid advertisement :-)

Michael wrote:
"Anyway, your paper ... is very light-fast and temperature resistant; archival... all that we hope to provide for our own work and for the works of others. Use it! ... But do not be afraid to experiment. It is good, strong stuff. If you fold a model that you feel is poorly done, lightly wet it, unfold it, iron it flat and start again. Few papers can do that for you.

The Hercon 70 is very stable at the sunlight and temperatures that your paper has endured. I have learned that the product is formulated to be heat activated and stable at temperatures of 150-200 degrees F.

Many thanks for your contribution. I am returning your samples along with a few sheets of my paper for your troubles. "
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i dont know if this helps but a while ago i ranted on how i didnt think this model was very good. im a huge fan of dr.lang and his insects...which is why this one dissapointed me...the model just seems bulky and not very efficient. i seemed to remember that the diagrams were either off somewhere or didnt explain properly what needs to be done. i seem to remember having to rearrange some layers. ill look at this again and possibly fold it again so i can maybe offer some assistance. good luck!
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Thank you Mixmastermarc16, i'll appriciate your future help.
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