Satoshi Kamiya - Ryu Zin (CP)

[Jonybb]

The only problem for me: I have almost no room for such a huge sheet of paper. I managed to make my sheet (2.4 m wide), but I don't have space on the floor to fold, because it is occupied by other things. So, making a 2.4 meter long crease is no easy task. :/

[Harpseal]

Where i live, my desk can barely do a 40 by 40 sheet, so i find another desk in the house that i can empty and do what i want on it. If there aren't any tables, i get a board or 4 and work on the floor, which has been my choice of place a lot more recently, as we've had the olympics on. With 80cm square though, i've no idea what i'll do.

[kareshi]

I'm doing a live broadcast of making a Ryujin. You can tune in at
http://www.twitch.tv/the_kareshi
It's not a standard 2.1 or 3.5, though, it's a theoretical Ryujin that starts from a 64x64 grid.
This is still going to take quite some time.

Edit: Had to restart, I'll be back on in just a minute!
Edit2: My computer seriously crashed. I need to take it into a shop

[Raptorex55]

Ive been thinking about creating a video tutorial for Ryujin 2.1. If I were to create such a video; what would be the response? I know we have a lot of people ask for diagrams, (and it seems that they often have no idea what they are doing) but if there really was a tutorial, do you guys think it would be wwould've trouble of making it. In other words would a video help people be able to fold it who otherwise couldn't. Now, it's a long way off, so I don't want anyone jumping down my throat, but is this something I think I would like to do, as long as it would be useful to enough people.

If the response I'd high enough I'll seriously consider making it, right now it's just a plausible idea.

Opinions?

(I would essentially be doing the same thing Tadashi Mori did with Phoenix 3.5, a tutorial based on a public crease pattern, so I wouldn't infringe on copyrights)

[kowal]

I think people will enjoy a tutorial, however you'll be swarmed by comments from people, who have zero skills and even with tutorial they won't manage to fold it. just remember to state that you won't explain more, the tutorial is good enough etc.
but remember then to make it so detailed and good quality, so it will be good enough

[kareshi]

I second that. Make it and be prepared for "I just started origami two months ago but I want to make this for my friend's birthday tomorrow, plz plz help me with _____"
If you do, and it might make a neat video, you're going to need really good camera angles, lighting, and explaining everything you're doing.

[Raptorex55]

I know I'll be getting a LOT of pleas and spam from inexperienced folders who are in over their heads. It seems as though it comes with the job.

You are both right about the quality and detail. I have a pretty solid method of attack for folding this model, (except for the head which, for me, is a straight up collapse) The first thing will work on is obtaining a tripod, to get the good angles necessary for a complex origami tutorial. I have a decent camera and the know-how, but I'm not sure about the paper. For the tutorial I think I'll use 24" tracing paper. Does this paper film well, or is it a bad choice? (Folding it wont be a problem My own previous fold was from 19"tracing paper)

[kareshi]

All right, I'm resuming work on Ryujin 64. Come by and watch the slow, agonizing process! Tonight I'm doing all the scale precreases. Then seeing if I'm up for more after that.

http://www.twitch.tv/the_kareshi

[Harpseal]

Raptorex55- go for it! This'll get you quite a bit of fame i would have thought, anyway- it's a brilliant idea and i hope you manage it and get through without any unforseen legal complications!

[Raptorex55]

You are right Harpseal. Legal complications are the only thing that worries me.
I've created a hypothetical game plann for making the tutorial. With schooling taking up much of my time I cant do much right away. Firstly I need to set up a YouTube account, and get established in that direction. (Make some easy videos, tutorials etc.) Then I wil make a time lapse video of the creation of the Ryujin 2.1 - once it gets a certain number of likes, subscribes, and views I will deem it worth my time to make a tutorial. You can expect the time lapse video to be up relatively soon, the tutorial will likely be made over the summer, when I have more time, and finished by next fall. Like I mentioned before, its a long way off but I'll keep everyone posted!

[kareshi]

Back to doing my Ryujin 64. Next up is head base, then upper legs.
http://www.twitch.tv/the_kareshi

Edit: Got through those, and also the lower scales, lower legs, tail, and the glue + wire support! All that's left is the head now. I'll do it later tonight.

Edit again: I'm live again! Finishing up the head. Same link as above.

[malifold]

Raptorex: could you give us a quick verbal description of your method of attack OR quick photodiagrams OR a rough pcp?

[kareshi]

Here's how the 64x64 Ryujin worked out!

[Raptorex55]

Sure thing malifold. (but what is a pcp) 
I'm making photo diagrams and those will be finished relatively soon. It will be similar to the tutorial by Hoang Trung Thanh, though more detailed, hopefully.
I start with the vertical pleats that fold across the whole paper. (with the diagonal that goes up two, down one, up two, down one, et cetera.) Then I fold the horizontal creases in those same box-pleats. Not sure if that part makes sense but I will draw it out on the creae pattern.
 I finish the rest of the simple box-pleating by pulling out the paper, putting in the horizontal creases collapsing it back up. After this is done you should have all of the easy box pleating completed, except the head, and scales, and the scales should be a series of single unit columns. 
I then double all of the pleats, or transition units, using the process described in Steps 88-99 of Kamiya's spinosaurus. Once all of the vertical pleats in the scales region are doubled (1/160th) it is possible to sart the actual scales. Which consists of redirecting the vertical pleat into diagonals and forming a complete X shape. Continue this through both halves. The head to neck connection is a bit problematic, but it essentially consists of closed sinking the diagonals at a particular place.  The head base is the final collapse.
Shaping starts by bring the halves together and wrapping the scales around the thickness of layers while poking out the legs which in turn are wrapped around either side of the body. The shaping of the head is difficult to explain in words. I use the sequence diagrammed in Super-Complex Origami to twist the head. The horns are narrowed and pivoted outwards. The flaps that make up the jaws are pleated on the outside to narrow them (not sunk). A few pioints are split , etc, etc.
Let me know if Something didn't make sense. I am going to make rough photo diagrams, so those will be available soon.
Regards,
Raptorex

P.S Kareshi, awesome feed! Awesome to see how the Theoretical Ryujin turned out

[malifold]

draw it out on the cp =(sort of) pcp.

Thanks!