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Dahila By Maarten Van Gelder

Posted: October 21st, 2012, 8:02 pm
by szekavat
Hello, this is my first post in this forum, my name is Sina and I'm from Toronto Canada.

Really hoping someone can help me out with finishing Dahila by Maarten Van Gelder. Here is a link to the instructions: http://www.scribd.com/doc/7066919/Origami-Dahlia .
I have reached the last step (STEP 12) but can't figure out how to overlap the flaps to get the final shape. Hoping someone has done this or some experts are out there who can help me out.

So to be specific, step 12 says
"Center: left flap behind right flap.
Left end overlaps right end for 2/16.
Repeat behind; very difficult"

And here is what I have:
http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu25 ... _20132.jpg

I don quite get the diagrams! which flap should be over lapped with which, what is 2/16?

Re: Dahila By Maarten Van Gelder

Posted: October 22nd, 2012, 3:28 am
by Brimstone
szekavat wrote:And here is what I have:
http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu25 ... _20132.jpg
Check step 10 again, what you do on the right hand side needs to be folded and then unfolded (that's what the double arrow means and you left it folded).
szekavat wrote:I don quite get the diagrams! which flap should be over lapped with which, what is 2/16?
The mopdel starts by dividing the paper in 16ths, to close the model you need to overlap 2 of those sections. I don't know if this is clear, but to shape the final model do as you would if you had a book and you were looking at the spine of a book and you opened the pages with both your hands and brought the cover and back cover together.

Re: Dahila By Maarten Van Gelder

Posted: October 22nd, 2012, 7:34 am
by szekavat
Brimstone wrote: Check step 10 again, what you do on the right hand side needs to be folded and then unfolded (that's what the double arrow means and you left it folded).
Hi, :) thank you so much.
oh but step 11 says to squash open the triangle on the right side , then do a mountain fold so that point x goes between the flaps. Also there is a cross arrow which means it should be repeated (right?), so I folded one more layer. OR does the cross arrow mean I have to do the same on the opposite side.

photo of stage 9 (with no folds) http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu25 ... G_2021.jpg
right flap fold: (With point x going behind
http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu25 ... G_2022.jpg
one layer
http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu25 ... G_2017.jpg
two layer:
http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu25 ... G_2024.jpg
back:
http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu25 ... G_2025.jpg
Brimstone wrote: The mopdel starts by dividing the paper in 16ths, to close the model you need to overlap 2 of those sections. I don't know if this is clear, but to shape the final model do as you would if you had a book and you were looking at the spine of a book and you opened the pages with both your hands and brought the cover and back cover together.
Good analogy!, but this is hard :?. The twisting folds from step 8-9 makes more obscure.
Should I actually open up the flaps before folding? when I open the flaps (like book covers as you mentioned, the center gets locked. but the instruction says left flap behind right flap.

more photos:

front view, extending the unit:
http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu25 ... G_2027.jpg
http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu25 ... G_2028.jpg
http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu25 ... G_2029.jpg
http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu25 ... G_2031.jpg

Front, opening the flaps
http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu25 ... G_2032.jpg
back:
http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu25 ... G_2033.jpg

Re: Dahila By Maarten Van Gelder

Posted: October 25th, 2012, 2:11 pm
by szekavat
:roll:
Still no body got a clue!?

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Re: Dahila By Maarten Van Gelder

Posted: October 26th, 2012, 3:04 am
by misterbluepie
It seems as though step 7 is inside reverse folds, step 8 is outside reverse folds, and step nine is inside reverse folds. All the creases should be there. None of the pictures you gave us show you doing the inside/outside reverse fold zig zag pattern, hence the reason you can't just open the model to tuck the flaps in.