Boxpleated tree?

Morgan · Post by **Morgan** » September 4th, 2006, 6:46 pm

I have recently noticed some Origami trees. In particlar Eric Joisel's, and they seem pretty straight forward. Are they made from boxpleating? I am curious of a CP or diagram of one ... I am going to try and make my own, if it's just a matter of making a grid, and then using creativity, making branches etc

I am not to sure how to make the main branches though, and also at the same time, making those braches "branch" off into different directions. Okay I hope this turns up something interesting :) Also doing a search here revealed a cool tree done by white angel of origami.

rockmanex6 · Post by **rockmanex6** » September 6th, 2006, 12:22 am

Look book Oru #2 it have inside Makewas tree pattarn

hobbestheprince · Post by **hobbestheprince** » January 3rd, 2008, 1:03 am

I would LOVE to find out how to make the Ent. Those were always my favourite fantasy creatures.

http://www.ericjoisel.com/faeries.html#2

It's so awesome. Anyone have info on this sort of stuff? The post above me seems right ... how hard can a tree be?

Jonnycakes · Post by **Jonnycakes** » January 3rd, 2008, 1:44 am

Well, a tree seems very hard to me...first you need to decide what type of tree...will it have leaves (or a representation of them)? Or will it just have bare branches? How will the trunk look? What about roots? Of course, these kinds of questions arise with every origami subject, but trees are particularly hard-they are very unlike most other origami subjects. One idea would be to use point splitting to create branches-you could vary the places that you point split and create a 'random' array of different sized branches.

araknoid · Post by **araknoid** » January 3rd, 2008, 5:05 am

there's a nice drawn-trees gallery here, maybe it can be of help when designing

Nathan · Post by **Nathan** » January 3rd, 2008, 9:16 pm

I've never really made an origami tree before. I don't know how Joisel makes his stuff- It's all beyond me. However, If I were to try to make a tree, I'd try to do it Vincent Floderer's crumple style.

There is a nice Binary Treeby Tomohiro Tachi's on his website (scroll-down; It's near the bottom). It doesn't give crease pattern, but may give you an idea on how to make a box-pleated tree.

hobbestheprince · Post by **hobbestheprince** » January 3rd, 2008, 10:11 pm

Nathan wrote:There is a nice Binary Treeby Tomohiro Tachi's on his website (scroll-down; It's near the bottom). It doesn't give crease pattern, but may give you an idea on how to make a box-pleated tree.

Oh cool, I really like that chairman ... quite unique. As for the tree, it is very similar to what I mentioned. It all just seems like a bunch of pleats. For the twigs it reminds me of seperating fingers on a model as well.

Oruhito · Post by **Oruhito** » January 4th, 2008, 3:57 pm

Does it have to be box-pleated? Because I was looking through some old pictures of mine this morning and found Vincent Floderer's work. If you google image search his trees you will be amazed. Very realistic.

hobbestheprince · Post by **hobbestheprince** » January 4th, 2008, 5:16 pm

Wow that guy has a great style. Love the trees he did! There's a tutorial I watched today on how he made the mushroom ... funny how he makes something so life-like in a matter of minutes.

Here's some pics of the type of trees I wanted to make ... I'm suprised there's no real diagrams out there for this sort of thing. Most trees are flat that I have come across.

[img]http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b249/ ... e/tree.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b249/ ... ce/ent.jpg[/img]

Jonnycakes · Post by **Jonnycakes** » January 4th, 2008, 7:06 pm

I wonder how Joisel got so many layers on all the branches in the first one...at any rate it doesn't look box-pleated (either of them).

Post by **origami_8** » January 4th, 2008, 7:17 pm

If that doesn't look boxpleated what does?!
It looks as boxpleated for me as a model can.

hobbestheprince · Post by **hobbestheprince** » January 5th, 2008, 12:49 am

origami_8 wrote:If that doesn't look boxpleated what does?!
It looks as boxpleated for me as a model can.

Agreed. The amount of folds squashed together definitely gives that away in the first picture. I'm very curious as to how these are made ... I'm scouring the internet a bit everyday trying to find new info, but unfortunately nothing has surfaced.

Jonnycakes · Post by **Jonnycakes** » January 5th, 2008, 3:21 am

Mmmmm I have to disagree with that. Layers bunch up with any polygon-packed model, box-pleated or not. Namely complex ones with lots of rivers, like a tree for example. And the tree is thinned a lot so the trunk isn't too thick compared to the branches-again the rivers and points splitting off compound the layers. Going by the layers, it could be box-pleated or otherwise. But the branches get thinner as they get farther from the trunk, and that makes me think it isn't box-pleated. The only way it could be box-pleated is if there are many thin, small-angled sinks all along the branches which would be possible, but impractical.

origamimasterjared · January 5th, 2008, 3:36 am

It's Eric Joisel. He uses tissue-foil and box-pleating for just about everything. It's pretty easy to pinch tissue-foil into shape.

araknoid · Post by **araknoid** » January 5th, 2008, 10:38 am

as obvious as it may sound, and aside from discussions about the goodness of box-pleating (which i like a lot, even if i realize it's only one of many techniques), i'd like to write down my appreciation for that tree.
showing the creases to create shape it's a very smart solution, and using empty spaces to create form could mean that the artist shapes also the void, not only the material. which in this case is... a square? or not? i'd really like to know.