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Help with Insane Paper Dimensions
Posted: January 20th, 2007, 6:59 pm
by Cupcake
I have been folding a lot of the models from Robert J. Langs "the Complete Book of Origami" and I am interested in folding some of the harder models, like the Bassist, Violinist and Pianist. However, I cannot figure out the dimensions for these.
I have already figured out that the Viking Ship with dimensions of 1:4.667 is 1:4 2/3. But I need help with the others. Here are the dimensions:
Violinist- 1:1.414
Bassist- 1:1.207
Pianist- 1:3.874
Thank you in advance

Posted: January 20th, 2007, 7:09 pm
by origami_8
Why don´t you just multiply the size you want the smaller side to be with the data mentioned and take the next measurable number?
Let´s say I want a violinist with the width of 25 cm, so the height would be 35,35 cm or equally 10" to 14,14".
By the way 1 : 1,414 is approximately A4.
For the pianist Lang describes a method how to get the needed length by beginning with a 1:4 paper and cutting of the exccess after folding a few steps.
Posted: January 20th, 2007, 7:24 pm
by origamimasterjared
1x1.414 = 1xsqrt2
Not sure about the bassist, but I know the diagrams showed how to get the rectangle for the pianist from a rectangle longer than 1x3.874 (Such as a 1x4)
Posted: January 20th, 2007, 7:38 pm
by denori
1 x 1.414 is (as jared says) 1 x sqrt(2)
All 'A' sized paper (and 'B' sized) is in this ratio, sometimes called the 'Silver Rectangle'
1 x 1.207 is 2 x (1+sqrt(2))
1 x 4.667 is 3 x 14
1 x 3.874 is roughly 8 x 31
Posted: January 20th, 2007, 7:40 pm
by denori
There's also a spreadsheet on my website
http://www.origamidennis.co.uk/ that helps with this sort of thing.
It's in the Utilities section.
Posted: January 20th, 2007, 9:10 pm
by Cupcake
I have figured out that 1:1.414 is indeed a silver rectangle. But how do I figure out 1: 2x(1+sqrt(2))? Remember, I know only up to grade nine level math. Would it be 2:2.414?
Edit: I think I've figured it out now. Take a silver rectangle, add a square below it and multiply by two, putting them side by side. That would make the equivalent size paper, wouldn't it?
Heres what I mean:

Posted: January 21st, 2007, 1:44 am
by Fanatic
You could actually do something easier for the bassist. Get an A4 sheet of paper and fold it diagonally like you're cuting a square. Cut of half of the protruding edge and there you have it!
Posted: January 24th, 2007, 2:05 am
by Cupcake
I'm pretty sure i know how to make a 1:1.207 rectangle now. Make a silver rectangle, divide in half horizontally and vertically and make squares touching half in the bottom half (cut off paper from below the squares)

Posted: January 24th, 2007, 5:43 pm
by Daydreamer
I still don't understand why you make things much more complicated than they are. Just calculate, measure and cut....
Posted: January 24th, 2007, 11:15 pm
by Cupcake

I'm just to lazy to do things the easy way!
Re: Help with Insane Paper Dimensions
Posted: July 5th, 2011, 8:11 am
by the modern einstein
3.874 = 500:1937
Re: Help with Insane Paper Dimensions
Posted: July 5th, 2011, 8:22 am
by the modern einstein
Can we have any confirmation of a more simple logarithm for the bassist? - say X{y to the power of 2)?
Re: Help with Insane Paper Dimensions
Posted: July 5th, 2011, 8:27 am
by redheadorigami
My head is full of BLAARRRGGH!!
Seriously, is the operation/pronumeral (sqrt) a number?
If so, what is it?
Re: Help with Insane Paper Dimensions
Posted: July 6th, 2011, 7:56 am
by the modern einstein
Which operation are you talking about? The proportions we are trying to solve are listed on the top post - they are the numbers.
Re: Help with Insane Paper Dimensions
Posted: July 6th, 2011, 8:31 am
by redheadorigami
What is the (sqrt) thing?