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Help with Gabriel

Posted: January 27th, 2007, 8:37 pm
by kingdomwinds
I am trying to collapse the base of Takashi's Gabriel. How is the circled part collapsed? Also, which creases are valley and mountain folds?

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Posted: January 27th, 2007, 10:41 pm
by Daydreamer
Even though this part looks complicated, if you look closely at the distribution of mountain and valley folds you will notice that actually you don't have to do anything at all. Just keep all those layers together. The creases will come automatically while folding the rest of the model.

As for valley and mountain folds there's a simple rule that will help you for box pleated CPs. With the coloured side down, the outermost creases (the lighter ones in this case) will be valley folds, the other ones (the darker ones) will be mountain folds.

Posted: January 27th, 2007, 10:44 pm
by kingdomwinds
Thanks for the tip. So have you folded this model? I like that fact that it is box pleating because i can actually figure most of the creases out.

Posted: January 27th, 2007, 10:49 pm
by Daydreamer
Ummm.... I still have a half collapsed model lying around somewhere... :oops:

Posted: February 8th, 2007, 4:31 am
by Wen Fu Kai
I am optimistic that Mr. Hojyo will diagram this model in the near future.

Posted: February 8th, 2007, 6:30 am
by kingdomwinds
He will probably only make origami insects 3, which i dont really care about. Insects are one of my least favorite subjects in origami. they look cool and all but i prefer humans, dinosaurs, and mythical beings.

I am folding aquarius and im almost done collapsing the base. The most difficult part of this model is folding the water. It is taking me forever to fold. Is there a way to fold the water quickly? It is really hard for me to fold the middle areas of the water. Im a little excited because this is the first compex cp that i have made major progress in.

Posted: February 12th, 2007, 7:48 am
by kingdomwinds
i am starting to fold gabriel again. I have a question about the hands. Are the hands done in a similar style as kamiya's wizard? Or is it done as kamiya's bahamute?

Posted: February 12th, 2007, 8:20 am
by Daydreamer
From the pictures I would say that they are more Bahamut-like. In the end it's up to you though how you shape them. I prefer Wizard-like fingers because I think they are nicer to shape.

Posted: February 13th, 2007, 11:48 am
by Cupcake
kingdomwinds wrote:I am folding aquarius and im almost done collapsing the base. The most difficult part of this model is folding the water
If you think that's hard, try Jeremy Schafer's flasher hat!

Posted: February 14th, 2007, 8:39 am
by kingdomwinds
i am not sure what is going on in the circled part. I have folded the violinist before so i am familar with the pattern but notice how the zigzagging is divided by mountain folds instead of valley folds after the small x. I have no idea what is going on in the circled part. It is different from the zigzags pattern on the left side.

Posted: February 14th, 2007, 8:46 am
by origamimasterjared
Someone please delete that post.

That area is folded just like in Hojyo's Violinist, forming the waist.

Posted: February 14th, 2007, 5:14 pm
by kingdomwinds
I know but its does not work because the pattern changes. Also, what is the big deal about that post? In the vietnam origami forum, ppl post cp scans from tanteidan magazines and no one minds.

Posted: February 14th, 2007, 5:18 pm
by Daydreamer
It's a break of copyrights, and that is forbidden by forum rules. If you don't follow the rules you might have to deal with the consequences, so I suggest you edit your posting and remove the CP.

Posted: February 14th, 2007, 5:39 pm
by kingdomwinds
folding those creases like the violinist does not make sense if the model looks like this from underneath. That would not be possible and the zigzagg folds would differ from right to left Image

It will make sense if it looked like this. Then the zigzaging would be the same througout. Image
But im not sure if that is how it is suppose to look like.

It is too bad that i can't make an account in the Vietnamese forum. Most of the members there have folded hojyo's model so probably would be able to give helpful tips. I keep getting an error message when i register. Im guessing ppl in the US can't make accounts.

Posted: February 15th, 2007, 7:24 am
by kingdomwinds
I have the base collapsed but have no idea how to transform it into the final model. Anyone know?