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Reaper
Posted: February 10th, 2007, 2:57 am
by origami93
i have gotten the cp colapsed, but i have NO IDEA where to start shaping the model. the face looks IMPOSSIBLE to form. any tips would be greatly appreciated.
http://www.h5.dion.ne.jp/~origami/e/reaper.html
Posted: February 11th, 2007, 1:08 am
by Brimstone
Welcom to Noboru Miyajima's world! His CP's are not difficult, but from the collapsed CP to the final model there can be 100 or more steps.
Posted: February 13th, 2007, 9:47 pm
by Cupcake
Wow... in that CP, I can see the hands and arms, but thats about it

Posted: February 13th, 2007, 10:01 pm
by kingdomwinds
diagrams are in tanteidan 5. For the face, you need to form a bird base and go from there.
Posted: February 14th, 2007, 2:43 am
by origami93
thank you. i have a problem shaping colapsed crease patterns. right now i have about 10 colapsed crease patterns on my desk.
Posted: February 14th, 2007, 9:11 am
by Ondrej.Cibulka
origami93 wrote:thank you. i have a problem shaping colapsed crease patterns. right now i have about 10 colapsed crease patterns on my desk.
I exactly understand to your feeling. It is usually no problem with colapsing of CP, but "final shaping". For instance me, I am technically oriented without any artistic feeling. It is impossible (MI 4, main character Ondrej Cibulka

) to do final shaping on box pleated colapsed CP for me. I tried Josiel's dwarf or several Takashi's models, but how to make hand from rectangle of harmonic-folded paper with tips -- really, I do not know. I am sure, that I am not alone, but nobody wants to help such people.
Posted: February 14th, 2007, 11:40 am
by Cupcake
I personally am currently struggling to learn CPs. I've only ever folded two, a Lion and Luna Moth, but I'm getting learning...
Posted: February 14th, 2007, 10:16 pm
by origami_8
Ondrej.Cibulka wrote:how to make hand from rectangle of harmonic-folded paper with tips -- really, I do not know. I am sure, that I am not alone, but nobody wants to help such people.
That´s not true, Daydreamer´s writing a very detailed guide how to deal with such things right now. The first four parts are still published and he´s very busy on writing the following parts.
Well and Wolf wrote some articles about exactly the same subject matter some time ago.
You can find the metioned help files
here and
here.
Posted: February 15th, 2007, 11:07 am
by Ondrej.Cibulka
I know about that, it is really hard work!
But I do not mean collapsing, personaly I have no problems with collapsing. I am talking about "final shaping", i.e. how make from collapsed base (hill of crumpled paper

) any model -- hands, legs, head with special details etc. For instance Josiel's dwarf: how to make from square of paper with several layers body and face. For many people it is normal (Phil has excellent variation) but also for many people it is impossible without leading.
Anna, not collapsing but "final shaping" is the merit.
Posted: February 15th, 2007, 4:03 pm
by Cupcake
Yes, I don't have all that much trouble collapsing bases anymore, but getting the shaping is really difficult for me
Posted: February 16th, 2007, 8:47 am
by Daydreamer
Ondrej, you are (once again) not reading posts properly before replying.
Wolf's guide "From paper to Reality" that Anna linked to (
another link here) explains how to come from a collapsed base to a finished model, so should be exactly what you are looking for...
Posted: February 16th, 2007, 9:31 am
by Ondrej.Cibulka
Yes, that the ticket! That web has a little bit confusing structure, so I did not find it.
Posted: February 16th, 2007, 11:43 am
by Cupcake
I think I might have figure out how to shape models now... I folded the base for Eric Joisel's dwarf and finished it later without any pictures. Probably just beginners luck
