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jason kus devil crane

Posted: November 22nd, 2009, 2:46 pm
by origamifreak_1.6180339889
hi everybody, im having trouble finding the reference points to this model
http://scripts.mit.edu/~jasonku/index.p ... evilcrane1
i was able to locate the reference points for the birdbase but nothing else. can someone please post a picture or something? thanks

Posted: November 22nd, 2009, 6:15 pm
by topsu
Not sure if it's exact, but this is what I found:

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basically it gives you the reference for the line under the bird base, rest of the creases should be easy to find.

Posted: November 22nd, 2009, 9:52 pm
by origamifreak_1.6180339889
i already figured that much out but i do not belaive theres enough information to continue

Posted: November 22nd, 2009, 10:56 pm
by chesslo
From what I see, there is enough to continue, where you stuck on?

Posted: November 23rd, 2009, 1:59 am
by origamimasterjared
The square at the bottom right is 1/3 of the side.

Posted: November 23rd, 2009, 9:25 am
by Falcifer
origamimasterjared wrote:The square at the bottom right is 1/3 of the side.
It's close, but not exactly at 1/3.

Assuming the sides are 1 unit long, the square at the bottom right is 0.32 units from the right.

(3√2 - 2)/7 units to be exact

Posted: November 23rd, 2009, 10:16 am
by origamimasterjared
Whoops, don't know how I was so far off. Guess that's what happens when I don't zoom in...

How about something like this?

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Posted: November 23rd, 2009, 11:00 am
by Falcifer
origamimasterjared wrote:Whoops, don't know how I was so far off. Guess that's what happens when I don't zoom in...

How about something like this?
That looks like it works.

Here's another, for the same point. Click for a larger view

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Posted: November 23rd, 2009, 11:25 am
by origamimasterjared
Yeah, I found a couple other ways of getting that point. But the one I drew is the most likely, as it's a reference point Kamiya uses a lot! (So it would naturally come up and/or Jason would be inclined to use it)

Posted: November 23rd, 2009, 1:48 pm
by legionzilla
I used the one-third reference for mine. Though it was not exact, its good enough for me.

Posted: November 23rd, 2009, 8:59 pm
by origamifreak_1.6180339889
thanks, i folded it today in school with some notebook paper. the only problem i had with it was getting the front neck to be the right size. it came out a bit long. but other than that, it came out alright for notebook paper

Posted: November 24th, 2009, 5:37 am
by OrigamiMagiro
The reference points were fairly arbitrary. Use different reference points to get different proportions. I just picked a set I liked.

For this creasepattern, the point is not how to get the reference point, but where it is. A little trig yields below, and you can find your reference points using whatever method you like. I suggest reading Lang's treatise on reference points for methods to progress from there...

http://www.langorigami.com/science/hha/ ... ctions.pdf

[img]http://jasonku.scripts.mit.edu/misc/dc.jpg[/img]