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Looking for a Pegasus

Posted: December 21st, 2009, 4:05 pm
by Heisenberg
Hi, i'm looking for informations about this pegasus

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I found this pic in a collection downloaded from somewhere I don't remember. It was in a folder labeled "Satoshi_Kamiya", but I checked Kamiya's site and there is not such a pegasus. The pic's name is "jm_pegasus.jpg", I think "jm" stands for John Montroll in fact the model is basically a Montroll's horse (from Origami Sculptures) with wings. I checked all Montroll's pegasi but they are way different.
Any ideas about the author or about adding those wings to the montroll's horse?
Thanks in advance and sorry for my english, I'm italian.

Posted: December 21st, 2009, 8:05 pm
by origamimasterjared

Posted: December 22nd, 2009, 5:24 pm
by Heisenberg
Thank you very much Jared!
So Kamiya is the creator... I wonder if there is a crease pattern available in that site, I don't understand japanese :(

Posted: December 23rd, 2009, 12:55 am
by HankSimon
I didn't see a crease pattern, but the diagrams are in his book.

BTW, you can run a Web page through the Google translator
http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en

And you can set it to translate Japanese to Italian... This page is in English, b/c English is my primary language (I also speak passable Texan :-)

- Hank Simon

Posted: December 23rd, 2009, 1:39 am
by origamimasterjared
HankSimon wrote:I didn't see a crease pattern, but the diagrams are in his book.
No they ain't. That's a different Pegasus entirely. The one H-berg is talking about is literally a John Montroll Horse (the famous one from the Dog base in Origami Sculptures) with wings.

Try folding the horse and unfolding it. Analyze the CP. See where those wings would come from. If a graft is needed, use a graft, etc. This should put you on the right track.

Good luck!

Posted: December 23rd, 2009, 1:44 am
by Heisenberg
Hi Hank from Texas! :)
The pegasus I'm looking for (the picture above) is not the one in "Works of Satoshi Kamiya" but a variation on J.Montroll's horse with addition of wings.
I tried to translate this page
http://www.folders.jp/b/box/cp.html
with google translator but, if I understand correctly, it doesn't give infos about the crease patterns :(

edit: Jared already answered to your post while i was writing :wink:

edit #2
origamimasterjared wrote:
Try folding the horse and unfolding it. Analyze the CP. See where those wings would come from. If a graft is needed, use a graft, etc. This should put you on the right track.

Good luck!
I tried already but unfortunately i'm not expert at crease patterns. I compared the CP of the horse with the CPs in this page
http://www.folders.jp/b/box/cp.html
looking for similarities. The first CP looks pretty similar, but it seems more simple rather than more complex, as I expected (looks like back legs are missing :? ). Probably it's a completely different model...

Posted: January 7th, 2010, 6:09 pm
by bethnor
hmmm... i'm no cp expert, but another way to approach this model is trying lang's cerberus, in jay ansill's old book, as, if i recall correctly, that is basically the montroll base with two extra flaps grafted on to form the extra heads (what this kamiya pegasus essentially is).

Posted: January 8th, 2010, 10:58 am
by origamimasterjared

Posted: January 12th, 2010, 2:06 am
by Heisenberg
Thanks Jared and Bethnor for the useful informations!