MC - Methyl Cellulose

[Wizmatt]

In Michael Lafosses' books he recomends starting with one part MC and eight parts water.

[!]

I began my methyl cellulose journey a couple days ago, and discovered that using metal as a gluing surface (eg. cookie sheet) works wonders. I've tried both glass and acrylic per Mr. Lang's suggestion, but have found that my dear mulberry sticks better (and therefore doesn't get wrinkles) to metal, and does not become shiny.

Also, http://hollanders.com is a great paper store located in Ann Arbor, Michigan. They carry unryu, mulberry, rayon lace, and many tissue papers. Their paper is of high quality, and is pH balanced. I bought some rayon lace for a different purpose, but it is so extremely thin, it must be perfect for backcoating.

[Great_expectations]

For anyone who lives in The Netherlands (or somewhere else in Europe) and is looking for MC:

Plakpoeder from Collall is a natrium-carboxylmethylcellulose (CMC) based glue.

http://collall.nl/nl/producten/collall- ... lakpoeder/

[Gearfold]

I'm preparing to make some double tissue soon. I just don't have a good working area.

Would using MC damage the glass sheet in any way?

[Daydreamer]

Nope, no damage at all. You can simply clean it with standard glass cleaner afterwards without any traces.

[LadyInRed]

Hi BluePaper,

That piece of news is music to my ears Do you know if it can be bought at Michaels or ACMoore? Also, have you used it to make double tissue paper? Any information using this product would be of great help! Thanks in advance,
Paperz

Try finding a Blick's in your area they may have it.
http://www.dickblick.com/products/elmers-art-paste/

or try Pearl Art they should also have it.
http://www.pearlpaint.com/

[LadyInRed]

ETA

I went to Paper Souce (which is only a few blocks from me) to buy my MC (someone else also suggested it in this thread). it comes in a 16oz plastic jar with a few tablespoons of MC powder and simple instructions on the side for $2.75 (plus tax) I'm currently letting it rest overnight to set up. You should try there too.

http://www.paper-source.com/cgi-bin/pap ... 07101.html

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

okay, so I usually backcoat two thicker sheets together, and just hang them up to dry. Today, I took a really thin piece of unryu and applied the MC to it on a glass table. I let it dry on the table and found that once dry, it was effectively glued to the table. I had to wet it again to peel any of it off...and it was a bit like a peeling sunburn. Is this a characteristic of sizing the unryu, or something? Anyone else have this issue?

[topsu]

I don't know, but the easiest way is to just dry them somewhere else, like you do with the other sheets.

[Jonnycakes]

I generally don't have problems peeling a sheet off of glass. I think you may have used too much MC on it-sometimes if I use too much, the edges are hard to peel off and they sometimes tear a little bit, but it is always possible to peel the sheet off without wetting it. Remember that for thinner sheets, less MC is needed.

[K2002]

If I use the flour and put in water to make it as starch will it work as methyl celullose? I cannot purchase any methly celullose at my place here.

[gachepapier]

Don't know about the flour - trying it out should be simple enough

Otherwise, wallpaper glue is mostly (if not 100%) MC or CMC, which should be good enough. Wood-glue (the white milky paste) also works well I find...

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

I figured out part of what I was doing wrong. Part of it was that I had no way to start the pulling...adding the Michael-LaFosse-Suggested piece of artists tape kinda did the trick. Also, the unryu has a flat side and a textured side...I think putting the textured side down caused a problem too...too many of the fibers got stuck to the glass individually...and as a result pulled off individually when I went to pull off the sheet. Live and learn.

[Jonnycakes]

Glad to hear your issue is cleared up, Bandersnatch.

@K2002: I have heard of people using wheat paste instead of MC, so maybe flour (or corn starch, or something of that nature) will work.

[origami_8]

I've heard something that wheat starch is more likely to attract mould and bugs. You should get wallpaper paste in every hardware store. Most Wallpaper pastes you get in powder form are MC or CMC.