Satoshi Kamiya - Ryu Zin (CP)

paper@rt · Post by **paper@rt** » November 11th, 2009, 9:01 pm

Hey, new on this forum but with some knowledge on folding cp's. I was wondering were I can find some usefull references or recources to start folding ryu zin 3.5. Any suggestion is welcome. The ones in this thread are already noticed.

insaneorigami · Post by **insaneorigami** » November 11th, 2009, 11:15 pm

Look at the CP on the flickr that Galen mentioned - that is a foldable CP (obviously

). It does have a couple errors, I think, but they should be easy to straighten out.

One question: How many grids from the bottom (and from the top) do the scales stop?

My apologies if that question makes no sense. I know that the 2.1 is 8 units from the bottom, and 9 from the top, but the 3.5 is kinda confusing me in that area.

insaneorigami · Post by **insaneorigami** » November 13th, 2009, 8:23 pm

Ah, and here is for everyone who has thought about contacting Kamiya regarding 3.5/3.1 CP (copied and pasted):

>Dear Andrew Stein,

Sorry, but answer is no.
Because, there is a plan to use the crease pattern already.
(so, it will be released sometime (hopelly) soon)

Thank you,

Kamiya Satoshi<

artur biernacki · Post by **artur biernacki** » November 13th, 2009, 9:58 pm

Will be great!!!
Artur
http://www.flickr.com/photos/12569445@N02/

insaneorigami · Post by **insaneorigami** » November 13th, 2009, 10:29 pm

What will be great, Artur?

eric_son · Post by **eric_son** » November 13th, 2009, 11:32 pm

insaneorigami wrote:What will be great, Artur?

I think he was referring to Kamiya-san's reply to Andrew's inquiry about the v3.5 CP.

StarPartener · Post by **StarPartener** » November 14th, 2009, 9:49 pm

I was precreasing the scales for my Ryu-Zin 3.5 when I saw that Kafar didn't precrease his scales before he started collapsing the base. So, I was wondering who precreased the scales before they began collapsing and who folded the scales after you began collapsing the base? Also, which way is neater and more clean?

insaneorigami · Post by **insaneorigami** » November 14th, 2009, 10:03 pm

Ah, thank's eric_son; Incidentally, I am Andrew

. I thought that he simply meant that he planned to upload the photo to his website.

By the way, if you have contacted Kamiya, it'll probably be a while before he replies - it took him a month to reply to my message regarding 3.5.

Starpartner: While it takes a very long time to do, pre-creasing the scales before folding is much cleaner and neater.

Zoraz · Post by **Zoraz** » November 14th, 2009, 10:17 pm

I've never precreased the scales, but if you don't mind the extra time, you should precrease them. It will look a lot neater.

insaneorigami · Post by **insaneorigami** » November 14th, 2009, 10:25 pm

You could also draw them lightly with a pencil - easier than pre-creasing, and you won't lose your place

insaneorigami · Post by **insaneorigami** » November 17th, 2009, 9:22 pm

I finally started making my sheet of 54/54 inch sheet of 96/96 grid paper!

I am taking 9 18-inch sheets of paper, dividing them into 32's, and attaching them together, to form a 96/96 grid. I have done 3 sheets, so I am a third of the way done! I'll probably do two more sheets per day, so that's 3 more days till I have the sheet!

BUGguy · Post by **BUGguy** » November 18th, 2009, 1:24 am

I've started making the ryuzin 3.5 with 8x8 feet paper(not sure what it is in meters)
the precreasing takes forever for the scales!
not sure if the final model will look nice....

origami-artist-galen · November 18th, 2009, 8:06 am

insaneorigami: The scales start 11.5 units from the top as well as the bottom.
StarPartener: Like everyone mentioned, it's much cleaner if you precrease all the scales (though Kafar folded 2.1's scales beautifully without precreasing).

Froy · Post by **Froy** » November 18th, 2009, 3:33 pm

If you are patient don't precrease the scales. I didn't. You will have to be a little bit more cautious when pleatin the scales and you will have saved a looooot of time.

When I was folding my Ryuzin I was tempted to precrease the scales too, but I found that if you are going to shape the scales it dosen't matter too much if you don't finish with perfect squares, the shapping will hide the inperfections. And as Robert Lang says in ODS in the chapter about Box pleating: he say that in nature does not exist a perfect simmetyi or perfect stright lines, so I think that if you have very identical scales you will end with something like folded by a robot and with an unatural appearance (even if the ryu zin is a unreal creature

)

The part I really think you should precrease is were the scales conects wiht the head, it's very hard to fold it whitout precreasing took me a lot of time to fold it.

insaneorigami · Post by **insaneorigami** » November 18th, 2009, 8:53 pm

Ah, thanks, Shuki! I thought that they were 11 1/2 up, but it seemed strange that there would be a half-unit..

My progress in my sheet:

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