OUSA Convention 2008: Who is going?

dragon man · Post by **dragon man** » April 28th, 2008, 7:54 pm

I would come but i live in the united kingdom, i'm to young to drive, im not a member of the OUSA, im not that keen on leaving my fiends etc

i'm fourteen thats old enough to steal a car i suppose

Joseph Wu · Post by **Joseph Wu** » April 28th, 2008, 8:02 pm

You think you can drive to New York from the UK?

Jonnycakes · Post by **Jonnycakes** » April 28th, 2008, 8:02 pm

Well you shouldn't need a car in New York as there is an extensive public transportation system (it is probably more of a hassle to have a car). Becoming a member of OUSA is as simple as filling out a form and paying $50 (maybe less-that was the cost for my family membership). Although being in another country and not leaving your friends are problems that are not so easy to overcome (or you could just bring all your friends too

).

dragon man · Post by **dragon man** » April 28th, 2008, 9:14 pm

You think you can drive to New York from the UK?

Of course i can i did and have come back already look i took a picture

Joe the white · Post by **Joe the white** » April 29th, 2008, 4:03 am

You could always attempt astral projection ;p.

Usernames might work, but they'd be hard to read. A simple model on the badge might be suitable, most organizations seem to have a model on their logo anyway. I think the dorm common area would work well as the meeting place, its pretty empty besides on convention late nights, then it gets hard to move in there =p.

Jonnycakes · Post by **Jonnycakes** » April 29th, 2008, 4:20 am

That was magical. I will always remember late-night-folding at OUSA 2007 sitting across from John Montroll and showing him my designs...I would never have imagined that things like that would happen at the convention.

Joe the white · Post by **Joe the white** » April 29th, 2008, 4:55 am

Indeed. I think its quite unique for origami conventions to have so many movers and shakers in one place and them be available to have informal discussions with. The closest you might get is a Sci-Fi convention. The community is primarily why I attend, not so much the supplies or classes (though I love them too!).

Rdude · Post by **Rdude** » April 29th, 2008, 6:11 am

I'm hoping to be able to make it, but I'll have to see how my schedule is gonna be in June. I think that arranging a meeting place and having some sort of simple model on the badges is the best idea. What model do you guys have in mind? It would be cool if it was unique to this forum as well; something simple and elegant.

Ondrej.Cibulka · Post by **Ondrej.Cibulka** » April 29th, 2008, 6:31 am

We will have a secondhand USA radar in our country and counter value will be (maybe) no visa needed to enter USA. (By the way, it is very equitable that we need visa and USAmen not, very democratic.) So, when I will need not a visa, I will start think about to go to the USA.

rdrutel · Post by **rdrutel** » April 29th, 2008, 2:23 pm

You had to insert demeaning politics didn't you? Don't blame the US because so many of your people from your country come and stay illegally on a tourist visa. Don't whine at all because people you elected made what you think is an unfair deal. It also has to do with people going to the embassy for a US visa and being denied. Denied because they don't have paperwork filled out, they don't have clear answers about when they are leaving when they are coming back, and they do not know where they will be visiting or who. Once all of this is corrected, on your side, then it will get better. The radar you are talking about will create jobs and has the intention to help security. But, people are much to stupid to understand something like prevention until it hits home. In WWII your country was handed over to the Germans and Hitler stayed for a year with Britain and France saying nothing....let him have it and hopefully he does not go farther. A great friendship in the European Union I'll bet. Terrorism was not stopped or prevented in that case and look what happened, you have a second rate country hanging by tourism and the EU, people wanting to leave their home country with no intention of coming back (your visa situation), and no stickers in the US saying "Made in the Czech Republic." You say anything demeaning about the US or that anything is second rate...well turn on your light and look around...walk outside and look around. The reason you're upset is right in front of you.

"The dogs bark while we gallop."
-Cervantes

ROD

Joe the white · Post by **Joe the white** » April 29th, 2008, 3:49 pm

Now that was totally uncalled for. Lets not involve national politics here.

cedison · Post by **cedison** » April 29th, 2008, 4:02 pm

Rod-Why are you taking a simple step, i.e. obtaining a visa, someone is annoyed with and ranting about their country with insults? If you had said you were offended and left it at that it is one thing, but you are crossing a line with some of what you are saying. The U.S. has an image problem, partially because of inequity in application of requirements and also because much of the goodwill WWII brought has been erased by the better part of a century of meddling, sometimes with disasterous results, in other countries. We are as a country guilty of not knowing about our history (except for what we wish to shine a light on) and its effects. Might does not make right and politeness and reasoned dialogue goes a lot farther than rudeness.

rdrutel · Post by **rdrutel** » April 29th, 2008, 4:32 pm

you are right Joe...we shouldn't involve politics. However, I feel pride in the country that raised me and that I am an immigrant to and I defend it any time someone speaks bad about it in any way. And cedison...the attitude by ondrej is much deeper, believe me. And I have faced the same visa problem and know it and point it out instead of him allowing people to think it is the US that is the cause. Also,do you know history??? With your response, I see your superficial comprehension. My family is from a country devistated by hitler...where did reason and dialogue get in WWII? Where did it help my country? It didn't and so did your history lesson leave out that reason and dialogue left with hitler lieing to everyone, millions dead, and a communist eastern bloc which was devistating. I take pride in the defense I gave and it is people like you that have no idea the comfort you live in. Rude? Sure I was...I responded to rudeness...that you failed to point out like Joe, although I wish he were more clear. Since this is clearly off topic, my point is done and there is no reason for me to drag this out as usual. I'm sure true Americans will understand.

ROD

Joseph Wu · Post by **Joseph Wu** » April 29th, 2008, 4:33 pm

This is an origami forum, not a politics forum. While the original post had some bearing on the discussion, the rant that followed did not. ROD, consider yourself warned. I can and will issue appropriate punishment...as soon as I figure out what that might be.

cedison · Post by **cedison** » April 29th, 2008, 5:10 pm

Rod-Since this is the forum for origami if you wish to know my awareness levels of the comfort I live in please e-mail me and I will be happy to discuss my opinions and history, although I will only be able to speak for my history and not "people like [me]" as that would require prescience I do not have.

Onto origami...Where we can still be amazingly segmented into true origamist vs. nontrue origamists.

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