Foldingsmith wrote:The person making the video could have at least given attribution to the designer. Would have been nice to seek the creator's permission as to whether or not a "how to" video would receive his blessings. Isn't this at least common courtesy?
I found that video long time ago searching for "Phu Tran rose". These words appeared at video title, that's more credit than he is giving to Kawasaki.
Foldingsmith wrote:
Phu shared the cp openly just as he was willing to teach anyone his rose design. This was before someone here decided to draw up and distribute self-made diagrams after Phu had asked him not to.
That's not true. Phu got angry after somebody draw a diagram, not before. He knew about the diagram when people started asking for that at the forum, and then he started a flame war. After that, the guy who draw these diagrams is not sharing them anymore to avoid people getting angry.
Foldingsmith wrote:
Phu has given Kawasaki due credit; while folders like yourself who seem irked by Phu wanting to protect his work, seem to lash out at him by minimizing his "modification" of the kawasaki rose and putting into parentheses, "your creation". It's the height of disrespect on your part. Because he's no longer willing to openly share his design, folders such as yourself feel the need to trash the artist by trashing the design (saying it's nothing more than a mere modification of a kawasaki; if that's the case, quit coveting it so much and be happy with folding a Kawasaki, which are fine, perfect designs all unto themselves). What design isn't in a sense, a "modification" of previous works? Everyone builds upon the technology and techniques explored by artists who came before them.
Where's the credit to Mr. Kawasaki?
Foldingsmith wrote:
Phu's rose incorporates the Kawasaki twist-fold method to get the cylindrical shape; but from there, I think the similarities end; throw into that, the calyx and leaf design and you have a pretty original creation.
Not only the twist fold, the soul of the model, but the way the rose is closed is the same as kawasaki rose version 2.
He only changed the angle of the model to get longer petals, and added some little folds to them.
Great idea, of course, and a very beautiful model, but a discussion with non sense.
What if someone who learn the model directly from the creator teach it to someone? Should he or her be put in jail? Because in that case I should be sent there for teaching other people how to fold the Hsi-Hua fish, for instance...
Regards.