Satoshi Kamiya - Ryu Zin (CP)

[Baltorigamist]

I would say no. It would be a lot bigger, but 5m is TOO big. (The finished model would be about 7 feet long, about 2.4m.) Plus it would be very difficult to even handle so much paper. It's hard enough to manage 1.2m^2 of paper, let alone more than four times that (16x that if you count area).

Also, I consider myself pretty competent with CPs (many of my own designs are box-pleated), and parts of 2.1 still don't make sense to me. Maybe I just need to fold them, but the head-neck and body-scale connections confuse me.

[kowal]

i have troubles with precreasing pieces 63 x 288cm, because i am unable to keep the paper flat on huge areas at once. if you want to try 5x5 meter, better cut it to smaller parts and glue togetherafter precreasing.
also, as Baltorigamist stated, 5m is just too big. the scales would be 2.5 cm long, body would be 10cm thick. Ryu in would loose its magic - as every origami model loses it when made from too big piece of paper.

[phillipcurl]

as they said, its just too big, it would actually make it harder.

no bigger than 2x2 meter.

[Jonybb]

5 m is definately way too big. But Kamiya used a 3-meter square for his lates Ryu Zin, so anywhere between 2 and 3 meters should be good. But, of course, it depends on the paper you're using.

[Baltorigamist]

Just a quick question: how big will 2.1 be from 80cm paper (lengthwise)? I figure about 40cm, right?

[kowal]

counting on the grid, it is 51/80 of the sheet, so about 50 cm - a little more on the tail, a little less on the neck twist and head detailing...

[Baltorigamist]

Sounds good. I did a test-fold of the head, so depending how much time I have to work on it, I should be done in a few months.

[rwzheng1997]

is ryuzin 3.5 harder than 2.1? By a lot or just a bit?

[phillipcurl]

2.1:

3.5 (click for larger image):


the main difference is a somewhat different head and a longer body and different grids (2.1=80 3.5 = 96), but i doubt it would be that much harder.

there is also a difference with the legs, but pretty much, the cp's are the same.

[Froy]

Harder? No. But it is a lot more time consuming, specially if you are going to shape the scales. The head and the main body structure are just the same. The only ticky part is the scales on the legs but with some practice and patience those should be relatively easy to fold. The head-scales connection is not a big deal if you follow a folding sequence raher than just forcing the paper to colapse on the creases.

[phillipcurl]

i kinda want to fold this model now...but is there any trick to folding the scales? because that is a lot of pre creasing is you were to do 1 by 1 and i would probablu go insane after 5 minutes.

[Baltorigamist]

I don't think there's really any trick, unless you want to fold through 20 layers at once. Besides, if you want a shortcut, you're not worthy to fold the Ryujin anyway.

[phillipcurl]

but its so much work...and i hate pre-creasing...even though if i were to fold it it would probably come out pretty nice, i just don't have the patients for all those stupid scales (there is over 2000)

[bnm70]

Face it, I cant do it.

[rwzheng1997]

Looks like this is a job to be done during summer I might do 2.1 if I can find some time. How many scales are in 2.1?