Viuda Negra (Manuel Sirgo)

earth · Post by **earth** » February 20th, 2007, 8:17 am

[img]http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/4489/diagramda3.jpg[/img]

How do I proceed from step 6 to 7? It seems like I have to unfold everything and invert it since there's a colour change, but I'm not sure.

Post by **TheRealChris** » February 20th, 2007, 8:51 am

you need to wrap around the top layer.
look: http://freenet-homepage.de/origamichris/ablage/fold.avi

Ondrej.Cibulka · Post by **Ondrej.Cibulka** » February 20th, 2007, 8:57 am

Do not unfold everything.
You folded frog base from blintz-fold (all corners in the center), so you have two layers of the paper on each part of the frog base. You could say, that outer layer (white) is dressed over the underneath layer. So you must a little bit release the folded frog base and "undress" outer layer, you also turn it inside-out.
Someone else maybe will describe it better due to better English sense.

I have one special suggestion. One of Czech very talented begginer aslo folded this viuda negra and said that it need much more practice and final model is very bad, crumpled etc. She said that she will practice folding on another models before folding it again. Maybe it should be also better way for you.

Post by **Daydreamer** » February 20th, 2007, 9:00 am

Actually this model is not so hard concerning the actual folding steps. The important thing with this model is to use the right (very thin) paper.

Post by **TheRealChris** » February 20th, 2007, 11:12 am

earth · Post by **earth** » February 20th, 2007, 4:37 pm

Thanks Chris

I managed to get past that step. Just to clarify, is step 11 a sink? I'll probably continue tomorrow.

I have one special suggestion. One of Czech very talented begginer aslo folded this viuda negra and said that it need much more practice and final model is very bad, crumpled etc. She said that she will practice folding on another models before folding it again. Maybe it should be also better way for you.

Well you gain experience by trying out different models. There's no harm trying to fold a difficult model, it is only through that will you learn things that you can't from simpler models

I don't mind trying again if it doesn't work.

Fanatic · Post by **Fanatic** » February 20th, 2007, 7:43 pm

There's no harm trying to fold a difficult model, it is only through that will you learn things that you can't from simpler models

Quite true.

It probably is a sink.

Cupcake · Post by **Cupcake** » February 20th, 2007, 11:58 pm

Yes, it is a sink. That's what the big bold arrow things always mean

Ondrej.Cibulka · Post by **Ondrej.Cibulka** » February 21st, 2007, 9:04 am

Cupcake wrote:Yes, it is a sink. That's what the big bold arrow things always mean

Big bold arrow should mean inside reverse fold.

Post by **Daydreamer** » February 21st, 2007, 9:12 am

Actually, big bold arrows usually just mean "Push here", so they can be applied for sinks, reverse folds and various other folds.

earth · Post by **earth** » February 21st, 2007, 10:07 am

Finally completed the spider, however it doesn't look really nice at all. If I were to show it to my friends, they would probably think its an octopus

Cupcake · Post by **Cupcake** » February 21st, 2007, 11:29 am

Well, then, that means you folded an octopus! It doesn't have to be what the diagrams say it is.

Post by **TheRealChris** » February 21st, 2007, 11:42 am

that's the way it turned out when I folded that spider (a loooong time ago)

[img]http://freenet-homepage.de/origamichris/bilder/009.jpg[/img]

Cupcake · Post by **Cupcake** » February 21st, 2007, 7:42 pm

Wow. I thank that spider ate a couple too many flies

eric_son · Post by **eric_son** » February 22nd, 2007, 4:15 am

Looks very menacing!

Actually.. it reminds me more of the facehugger in the aliens movie.

(I've made many attempts at that viuda negra model but still ended up with something that looks like a crumpled sheet with 8 legs

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