Drummers!

[platypusguy]

I am a drummer and have been for almost as long as I have bee folding(thats a long time) and I am looking for a diagram of a drummer. Please tell me if you know of one, on the web or in a book, thanks!

[origamimasterjared]

Takashi has an awesome drummer, photos of which are in Joe Wu's site. Many pieces and no diagrams though.

Marc Kirschenbaum has a complex one-piece drummer in his book Paper in Harmony They're the pad kind of drums, like an electric kind of.

[phil]

Marc Kirschenbaum has one in his Book Paper in harmony
http://marckrsh.home.pipeline.com/index.htm


Here's the one I folded.
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/family_ph ... pg&.src=ph

[Joseph Wu]

1. Pet peeve time. There are a few Japanese folders whose names routinely get mixed up by non-Japanese folders. Here's the list, with last name first, as is correct in Japanese. Typically, unless you know the person well, you should refer to Japanese people by their last names (or their full names).

Hojyo Takashi
Miyajima Noboru
Kamiya Satoshi

(Note that calling me "Joe" is just fine.)

2. I never really liked Marc's drummer. It's technically interesting, but aesthetically not. Then again, Marc and I have very different views on how to finish an origami design, so this is definitely a case of two different styles clashing.

[origamimasterjared]

Yes, Joe, I know that Takashi is his first name. I just prefer calling people by their first names, as I prefer being called by my first name myself. And referring to people by first and last name sounds a little stuffy. Though in person I would of course greet him/them properly.

And I know all about (well, a little) how you feel about Marc's style...

[TheRealChris]

you should refer to Japanese people by their last names

my problem with japanese names, that they are basically no names for me, by only words. maybe its a problem with the cultural difference, but my brain seldom connect them to people, but just see them as foreign words. as long as I don't meet any of them in person, I will probably confuse the name in future. the second (and even more confusing) point is, that from time to time their names are also wrong written on diagrams. so I get double confused

unless you know the person well, you should refer to Japanese people by their last names

that's the same here in Germany. but nowadays it's oh-so-cool to talk to somebody, using her/his forename. we have even a difference between an official, more respectfull "you" and a private "you". that makes it easier for the cool youth to break the rules of respekt and integrity

I never really liked Marc's drummer

although I like him, most people don't spot him as a drummer.


Christian

[wolf]

Then again, Marc and I have very different views on how to finish an origami design, so this is definitely a case of two different styles clashing.

So, what's your view on how to best finish a design? That'll make for an interesting discussion topic, I think.

[wolf]

we have even a difference between an official, more respectfull "you" and a private "you".

Well, it was a semester before we learnt how to say "you" really politely in a beginning Japanese class I took, and even then we were taught to use the person's name rather than using "you".

although I like him, most people don't spot him as a drummer.

But more like a guy sitting in a broad-leafed tree?

[JMcK]

Ooh, you could convert that model into a guy being attacked by some Lovecraftian tentacled beast - a Cthonian (sp?) or suchlike.

I might actually fold it now.

[TheRealChris]

Well, it was a semester before we learnt how to say "you" really politely in a beginning Japanese class I took, and even then we were taught to use the person's name rather than using "you".

like "better use it's forename than a false use of you"? the traps of a language

when you offer the personal address to somebody, you can say
"Sie können Du zu mir sagen"
the english translation would be
"you can say you to me"
that's a classic german joke


Christian

[Joseph Wu]

Then again, Marc and I have very different views on how to finish an origami design, so this is definitely a case of two different styles clashing.

So, what's your view on how to best finish a design? That'll make for an interesting discussion topic, I think.

I've spun this off into a new topic:
http://snkhan.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=583

[Joseph Wu]

I just prefer calling people by their first names, as I prefer being called by my first name myself.

Isn't it more important to call people by the name they wish to be called by? Just as you prefer to be called by your first name, most Japanese prefer to be called by their last names.

I remember that at the first time I met Hojyo, I got his name wrong. He corrected me immediately, a clear indication that his name is important to him. (Prior to meeting him, I'd only seen his name in print, and had never heard it spoken. His last name is not a common one, so even my Japanese co-workers weren't sure how to pronounce it correctly, since there is more than one way to pronounce each Japanese character. My co-worker thought that it would be pronounced "Hokujo".) Later, he also corrected my spelling of the English version of his name. (It can be rendered either "Hojo" or "Hojyo" in English, and I had been using the former.)

[origamimasterjared]

Isn't it more important to call people by the name they wish to be called by? Just as you prefer to be called by your first name, most Japanese prefer to be called by their last names.

That is exactly what I meant. Knowing now that most Japanese prefer to be called by last name, this will of course be how I will refer to them.

I often see it written out Houjyou too...

[Joseph Wu]

That is exactly what I meant. Knowing now that most Japanese prefer to be called by last name, this will of course be how I will refer to them.

My point is that you didn't. You called him "Takashi".

I often see it written out Houjyou too...

And while that's also a valid romanization of the name, it's also "wrong" because that's not the one he uses.

[Brimstone]

No wonder he never answer an email I sent him. My greetings were Hi Takashi