Samurai Helmet Beetle: Starting Size?

FrumiousBandersnatch · November 4th, 2009, 9:29 pm

Hey, just a quick question to those who have completed Kamiya's Samurai Helmet Beetle (Tanteidan Convention 14). If I'm using parchment paper, is 60cm a decent starting size, or is this going to yield too large of a finished beetle?

insaneorigami · Post by **insaneorigami** » November 4th, 2009, 9:41 pm

I have never tried to fold the model, nor do I have diagrams - However, when you try to fold something with a large sheet of parchment, as you probably know, it becomes hard to shape. I would recommend starting with some smaller size - that seems a bit big.

EDIT: corrected a big grammatical error

origamimasterjared · November 4th, 2009, 9:41 pm

I folded it from a scrap of kozo probably around 8 inches. It came out with a body about 2 inches. This is from memory so these are guesses--I don't have it anymore since it got crushed at some point, so I can't measure it. Hope that helps.

FrumiousBandersnatch · November 4th, 2009, 9:46 pm

It does! I was just kind of looking for an approximate ratio! 4:1 sounds like a good starting point. Thanks!

WhisperPuffin · Post by **WhisperPuffin** » November 4th, 2009, 11:51 pm

I folded it a while ago, while in my foil phase, out of 15cm american foil. It was foldable, but it didn't look good.

I would recommend something about 25-35 cm, MC'd kozo would work really well.

How thick is parchment paper? That might guide my advice a little bit, although this is one of those models where thickness isn't critical, but shapability is.

bethnor · Post by **bethnor** » November 5th, 2009, 4:15 am

i folded this model from a 35 cm piece of nicolas terry foil. the final model is exactly 10 cm from the end of the elytra to the tip of the horns.

it's one of my favorite kamiya models, and i hate insect models.

FrumiousBandersnatch · November 5th, 2009, 4:49 am

WhisperPuffin wrote:MC'd kozo would work really well.

I've heard that Sipho Mabona does this. Anyone know if it's any particular type or gsm of kozo? My attempts with this (with something called kitakata) were less than amazing...there was a lot of furriness at the end.

origamimasterjared · November 5th, 2009, 5:39 am

I thought you already saw my post where I explained exactly which it is, as well as provided a couple links of where to buy it.

I folded it with non MC-d brown kozo. MC would have helped a little. It was too soft for a beetle.

WhisperPuffin · Post by **WhisperPuffin** » November 5th, 2009, 7:55 am

I buy mine from Hiromi paper, I really like that one.

EDIT: Link to Hiromi online shop.

origamimasterjared · November 5th, 2009, 8:47 am

Puffin, you do? Isn't that paper amazing!!

insaneorigami · Post by **insaneorigami** » November 5th, 2009, 11:00 pm

Haha, I just found out that my aunt lives around 10 minutes from there, so she said she would send me some paper from there sometime

. Looking foreward to it

Small world, eh?

Whisper - Parchment paper is very thin.

legionzilla · Post by **legionzilla** » November 6th, 2009, 6:00 am

You could use the reccomended starting size on Kamiya's book.

WhisperPuffin · Post by **WhisperPuffin** » November 6th, 2009, 6:20 am

origamimasterjared: Yeah, it is

. You've used it?

legionzilla: It isn't in The Works. It's in T14, as Frumious said in the thread opener.

origamimasterjared · November 6th, 2009, 7:35 am

Yep, but only small scraps of about 8-9 inches. I folded my Bear 1 years ago with it. Also, this beetle. I bought a sheet of red (along with a white gampi and a white one-or-the-other. The shop is about a half hour away from my house (when there's no traffic).

insaneorigami · Post by **insaneorigami** » November 6th, 2009, 9:14 pm

Whisperpuffin - have you ever folded with the Kozo roll paper?

I'm trying to figure out if I should get it..