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I did a little searching and found a tale of frustration:
viewtopic.php?t=4087&start=0&postdays=0 ... highlight=

From Google, I found:
22 in long, wetfolded from a single 6 foot square of hand-tinted Kraft paper, using cross pleats of various sizes (Box-pleated ?).

References:
http://origamido.com/e-gallery/selected ... golin.html

ODS p. 194

http://mikenan.blogspot.com/2007/11/pea ... igami.html

http://www.ericjoisel.com/animals.html#4

http://www.origamifun.info/ej/japan2.php?category=ej

And a little more:
Hedgehog - http://ericjoisel.com/hedgehog.html

http://ericjoisel.com/creating_process.html

I have never folded the Hedgehog, but it appears to be only complex (as opposed to SuperComplex), requiring lots of patience. It reminds me of Kawahata's Stegosaurus. But, I imagine it might be a good warm up for the pangolin.

Design:
I am not a designer, it looks like you might design a simple animal with a short tail at the front (for the head) and a longer tail at the end. You might look at Quentin's Tapir (Tanteidan#16) or his anteater for ideas, but they are too advanced to start with.

However, Lang's ODS, Maekawa's Genuine Origami, or Montroll's Origami Sculptures (Dog Base) all have good hints for design.

After you create an animal that you're happy with, then go to ODS to learn how to create a sheet of scales, which you then use as a start to fold your animal.

Obviously, this will take longer than a day, but with persistence, as well as lots of torn and crumbled paper, you could have a first pass in less than a year.... And as a money-back guarantee ... I'm positive you will learn more about Origami.

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This is one of the best posts I've seen on the forum !
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well the shape of the pangolin isn't an issue for me. I can do that. I was just confused about the scaling of the scales, which might be because my brain is fried from too many oreos and too much homework. But I'm going to mess around some and I'll let you guys know if I wind up with something worth showing. Thanks for the advice!
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gachepapier wrote:I think you hit it quite accurately, the pleats are packed closer on the edges, following something close to a logarithmic progression. I'm not entirely sure, but I think he may have detailled this a little bit on the french-speaking forum, as one of its members actually got a rather impressive result, albeit still not to the level of the original... Your nickname suggests you may be able to browse this without translation too :)
Haha sorry, I'm American, just I forget how I came up with that screen name a while ago. No, haha I don't speak any French. Haha
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Lephantome92 wrote: Haha sorry, I'm American, just I forget how I came up with that screen name a while ago. No, haha I don't speak any French. Haha
Sorry to hear that, rumors had it that even in the New World there are polyglots :wink:

Perhaps google or some such can help you translate some of it.

Good luck
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Actually, believe it or not, tsk's assessment of the Pangolin is rather accurate. The scales vary in size; the scales in the center of the paper are larger than those on the edges. All you have to do (in general) is make the pleats of different widths. Finding the right ratio/progression may take a bit of experimentation, but the basic idea is not too complicated. After that, fold two opposite corners into the center (or you can do this before folding the scales. Or even cut them off so you start with a hexagon. Or maybe you can use them to form a belly.) From here you "just" shape it into a pangolin using lots of intuitive 3D crimps and swivels.
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Indeed, across the pond we have both polyglots and polymaths... I know how to factor multilevel polynomials in algebra, Texan, and English !

But tensors make me relatively nervous. ;-)

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Origamimasterjared has a quite accurate description of how to fold Joisel's Pangolin. Theoretically, his instructions are all that you should need - a simple pleated pattern with smaller pleats toward the edges is the base.

You guys all have Dr. Lang's ODS, right? (If you don't have it - get it. The price might be a bit of a turnoff for some of you, but trust me, it's worth it)
In the section about pattern grafting (7), on page 200, there is a description of making the scales of his scaled koi. Theoretically (again) all you have to do is make his scales (fig. 7.20) out of his pleats.

This model is a classic distinction of the difficulty between difficulty, and complexity. The overall model is quite simple, but exceedingly difficult.

Hope this helps all 'yall folders out there eager to fold this.

EDIT: changed the pg# to 200 as opposed to 719.. ..which was obviously incorrect
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gachepapier wrote:Sorry to hear that, rumors had it that even in the New World there are polyglots :wink:

Perhaps google or some such can help you translate some of it.

Good luck
Haha I'm in Spanish class, cuz that's the only language my school offers, and I need a few foreign language credits to graduate. So, I'm learning Spanish at school and teaching myself Japanese if that counts for anything!! Haha :D
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Just teasing you guys :lol:

I'll agree to the above that the model's design is quite simple but that its folding must be very hard - I don't fancy trying just yet, though.

@Lephantome : check your PMs if you haven't done so yet :wink:
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@gachepapier: I sent a response, if you didn't see it


After a little bit, I found a way that I can design my own pangolin, I just need to see about copyrights and whatnot, because mine may be highly similar to Joisel's. If my design is viewed by Joisel to be legally mine, and not just an attempt at his, I'll submit it for the Christmas book!!

Haha I just looked over my design, and I can make one with its tongues sticking out, as if for a bug!! Now to see if I can make a bug on the end!! Darn ambition!!
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Maybe how the scales were on there was he glues on little pieces of paper :OOOOOOOOO
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@Lephantome please post pix... but no diagrams, so it will still be valid for the Christmas book.

Also, send a picture to Eric and ask his opinion directly... He might allow something like "inspired by or derived from Joisel"

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@HankSimon I'll hope my pics (whenever I manage to finish it!!) make it to Mr. Joisel, and post pics here!!
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Can't wait to see it, Lephantome!
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