Need help on Classic Zing zong dragon, or anceint dragon.hmm

factor · Post by **factor** » April 6th, 2007, 12:51 am

http://www.zingman.com/origami/zingoridragon.html

Here are the steps and i am having a problem on step 7. I have done the blitz fold and i have the square but i dont know how to get the picture on step 8. Please explain how i fold it.

Cupcake · Post by **Cupcake** » April 6th, 2007, 1:03 am

Well, all you do is make a preliminary fold, but don't fold those two little flaps

factor · Post by **factor** » April 6th, 2007, 1:51 am

I'm kinda of a amature, Premilimanry fold? I have done it but i dont know what it is, but im asking, where and how do i fold this part?

And im on the part where is a perfect square with the four corners coming in the center. and im trying to get to where it has this

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orion119net · Post by **orion119net** » April 6th, 2007, 3:45 am

Preliminary fold is what you do to get the bird base, before you reverse-fold in the sides(so you get the square shaped thing).

factor · Post by **factor** » April 6th, 2007, 4:36 am

whats a bird base? im an amature please explain.. can u tell me where, and how to fold without the abbreviations like birdbase or preliminary fold.

Lux Aeterna · Post by **Lux Aeterna** » April 6th, 2007, 5:49 am

Ok, a preliminary fold is a very common structure you'll see all over the place in a lot of models. Take a piece of paper, fold and unfold it through both diagonals. Now turn it over, fold and unfold it in half in both directions. Notice that what you're left with (still flat) has the same patterns of mountain and valley folds as the picture in step 8. There should be one logical way (er, two, if you leave a crease flat) to collapse this using all the folds you just made into something symmetrical and 1/4 the size. Try and do that. You should get a smaller square that's 4 layers thick total.

factor · Post by **factor** » April 6th, 2007, 11:37 pm

okay i got a preliminary fold... but you havent answered my question i have this. The image on the left... and i want THIS! the one on the right

theorigamist · Post by **theorigamist** » April 6th, 2007, 11:43 pm

Take the picture on the left, flip it over, and perform the preliminary fold. The top right quarter of the picture on the left is what you see on the front of the picture on the right. The top right corner of the picture on the left ends up as the bottom corner of the picture on the right.

I don't want to sound rude, but if that was hard to figure out then this model is probably far harder than you should start with. Perhaps try some traditional models and come back to this later.

factor · Post by **factor** » April 7th, 2007, 12:59 am

thanks alot i did it. but i should do a lower lvl but i just want to test my skills on this.. ima amature and my complex one is pretty complex but its medium for you i bet.

Post by **origami_8** » April 7th, 2007, 5:55 am

You should try to make yourself familiar with the basics of Origami.
Gerwin and Stephen do have pretty good basic-sections on there website, you should really go and have a look at them:
http://scarygami.net
http://www.fishgoth.com/origami/index.html